does that mean that l_f is not the right elitism o_o;
Well . . . as a member of l_f I'm going to say that like anything in life there are times to be serious and present a good immage where it will be most productive and there are times under the anon of the internet to kick back your heels and laugh >.> . I think that while one facit of lolita is more graciuos, within the community the two different attitudes both have there own place. (runs off to check l_f)
oh okay, so we can't be like disowned lolis for being in l_f XO. I guess just as long as we don't be like this in someone's face >_>
Yeah it just depends.
Like, there was a more l_f side of elitism being expressed at the party (one of the ita-lolis showed up [white satin, pettycoat showing]), so obviousely even though there was a kindness being expressed by allowing her to attend and being helpful with advice and allowing others to learn from mistakes (many showed up without anything under their skirt! O___O) there will always be a bitchy side of eletism that I think is expecially developed in areas outside of Japan because we have to work so much harder to look good. U___U I'm not going to ever argue against either aspect becuase I feel as if both are honestly lolita eletism. Where theres one there will be the other.
Its sort of like the light and dark side of the force! (rawr! I R Jedi rorita - my rightsaber needz moar race!)
I totally forgot to say this since I'm always thinking it but I love your icon. Nao = lurve.
thanks for bothering to write this up for us, I enjoyed reading it. Novala sounds like a nice guy.
No problem, it was my pleasure to do so! Yeah Novala was surprisingly warm and funny. He also seemed very grateful for the opportunity to come here. I remember at the signing session he even shook everyone's hands! @__@
Thanks for posting this. I would've loved to attend this event, but curse me being like 900 miles away :( I'm really glad they enforced a strict dresscode- sounds like it paid off! Novala sounds like a cool guy and like he was impressed with American lolitas :)
And as for l_f? It's just comedy, as far as I'm concerned (albeit at other people's expense ;p). I really hope no one actually takes that community seriously.
Yeah I don't think people should take it that seriously either but I do think its a part of lolita that's very real.
I'm sorry I couldn't have seen you at the event, it would have been nice to have been able to chat. :(
The "elitism" is actually more of a good thing, I think. It encourages everyone to have pride and confidence in being lolita and to represent the fashion in a positive way. Things like l_f just serve as reminders to not take it all too seriously XD It is just a silly fashion after all, but "whatever you are, be a good one!"
Damn, now I want to open a discussion on lolita fucks and see what people think (inivte some lfers to join).
That my dear is a wonderful suggestion. Forgive me if I take a moment to abuse my unlimited posting. ;)
IAWTC. It makes you WANT to be better. When you have worked so hard at it, just to see the way some people throw the words lolita fashion around on just about anything with lace, thats what makes you take a certain joy in ripping them apart. Not for their effots into lolita but for their lack of it. If half would just try to even MIMIC bibles, they wouldn't be put on L_F in the first place.
Thank you so much for taking the time to write this out. Its much better and more informative than seeing the pictures (which are also nice but...I like actually information as well).
I also live so far away it was impractical to go but his answers make me remember what I loved about lolita in the first place.
I loved his answers.
I'm glad someone else feels the same about his answers. Going into the event I reread a bunch of the essays he had written and realized that I didn't always agree with what he was saying. In them he seemed a bit cold and ungiving.
However after meeting him and listening to him talk I was reminded of why lolita is still a love of mine. I was really taken aback by his warmth.
I loved how there were rules on what attire could be worn to the event as well. It really made people work at it and from the photos, it seemed worth the effort as they all looked amazing. Much better than most photo shoots and tea parties.